00:26:45 Michele Clamp: I’m glad I put makeup on this morning - didn’t realize it would be cameras on!!! 00:27:15 Linda Jacobson: Maybe have over thought my list….broken down into VIP exhibitions, VIP marketing, Galleries VIP, Collectors VIP., and students VIP But when I send out an email blast it goes to everyone! 00:29:26 Neena Buxani: how long will tomorrow’s session be? 00:29:47 Karen Middleton: I think tomorrow will also be about 90-120 minutes 00:31:21 Mary: My room for growth is huge since I am just starting! 00:31:50 Leslie Neumann: Perhaps you could ask everyone today how their sales have been during the last 12 months? Or 24 months? Some of my friends and art partners have told me that sales have been slow for a while - so I’m curious. This is a great opportunity to get some feedback from your people. THANKS. Leslie Neumann 00:31:51 Rebecca Finch: Reacted to "My room for growth i..." with 🎉 00:33:37 Linda Jacobson: My sales in last two years have been very good. 00:33:43 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "My sales in last two..." with 👍🏽 00:33:57 Linda Jacobson: During covid not great 00:36:30 Dahna Chandler: No. It was, like, “Dogpile” back then. Ha! 00:36:55 Mary: Did you intend to leave your camera off? 00:37:30 Sandra Sedmak Engel Fine Art: She noted she was going off camera 00:37:54 Karen Middleton: Myspace definitely was around then 00:43:13 Rebecca Finch: I’ve never thought of most of these! 00:52:44 Mary: I would love to hear suggestions of how to connect with artists face-to-face on Zoom (I am in an extremely remote area). 00:54:12 Karen Middleton: Replying to "I would love to hear..." Hi Mary, by asking this sort of question! Happy to connect via Zoom. email me at karen@kmiddletondesignstudios.com 00:54:15 Rebecca Finch: I was just thinking how cool it would be to have a zoom meeting up while We’re all working in the studio. we could chat while we work. 00:54:32 Mary: Replying to "I would love to hear..." Thanks Karen I will do that! 00:54:45 Karen Middleton: Replying to "I would love to hear..." (That also goes for everyone on this call!) 😆 00:55:31 Karen Middleton: Or even having a monthly scheduled chat to share knowledge, celebrate successes, and are knowledge 00:55:37 Karen Middleton: share* 00:55:42 Mary: Reacted to "I was just thinking ..." with 👍 00:55:55 Mary: Reacted to "Or even having a mon..." with 👍 00:56:12 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "I would love to hear..." I sign up for Zoom meetings that artists in other places are offering regularly - I live in BC, but every time the provincial arts society in Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, or the Maritimes offers a Zoom meeting, I try to sign up and go. Also the national orgs like Cdn Artists network, and Cda Council for the Arts. 00:56:33 Eve Jacobs-Carnahan (she/her): Karen, lots of what you’re asking for is available through Alyson’s Art Biz community. I’m sure she’ll talk about it later. 00:57:16 Paula Blumenfeld: i sopped posting 2 years ago because it was unending-how essential is it? what are the best places to post? 00:57:29 Mary: Replying to "I would love to hear..." @Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada thanks a ton for that idea! 01:00:34 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "I would love to hear..." It works great - I'm not in a remote area, but I have contacts all across Canada and the US in my list now after a year of doing this! 01:01:03 Mary: Replying to "I would love to hear..." @Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada very cool! 01:01:42 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "I would love to hear..." These are all free webinars too - and most of them include a discussion portion on some topic or other that really helps break the ice! 01:02:01 Mary: Reacted to "These are all free w..." with 😃 01:08:31 DougFreemanStudio: Public artists work with Landscape Architects 01:16:08 Rachael McCampbell: Where is this workbook? I never saw it. Only printed out the 10 page worksheet sent to us. 01:17:08 Alyson Stanfield (she/her): @Rachael McCampbell It’s in the learning center with Your People Plan. It was in the emails we sent, too. Https://my.artbizsuccess.com/courses/peopleplan 01:32:45 Paula Blumenfeld: please post names an websites for your work 01:32:56 jaye alison moscariello: I did the groups! 🙂 01:33:25 Wendell Myers: Wendell Myers @wendellmyers on IG, wendellmyers.com 01:33:26 jaye alison moscariello: Jaye Alison Moscariello jayealison.com 01:33:47 Nancy Ramsey: I’ve got to head to another meeting soon. Thanks and see you tomorrow! 01:33:52 Debbie Grifka MI: Debbie Grifka at debbiegrifka.com 01:33:57 Karen Middleton: Here is my email: karen@kmiddletondesignstudios.com. Let's stay in contact! 01:34:32 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Leah Murray, leahmurray.ca, Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/LeahKMurray, LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahmurraybytesmart/, Pinterest - @leahkmurray 01:35:24 Brian Allen: Brian Allen: letterpress and printmaking, calligraphy and paper. IG: brianallenart 01:35:28 Elana: Replying to "Here is my email: k..." Hi Karen!! 01:35:41 Sara Conybeer: Sara Conybeer thestationarynomad.com 01:35:42 Karen Middleton: Replying to "Here is my email: k..." HEEEEYYYY!!!! 01:35:48 Elana: Reacted to "HEEEEYYYY!!!!" with ❤️ 01:36:09 Karen Middleton: Reacted to "Hi Karen!!" with 😂 01:36:11 Melinda-camera off for dinner:): Replying to "Here is my email: k..." 🔥 01:36:19 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Oh, ArtPal - https://www.artpal.com/LMur 01:36:38 Paula Blumenfeld: paulablumenfeldart.com 01:37:01 Dahna Chandler: I use that! 01:37:20 Alexis: LOVE Artwork Archive! 01:37:27 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "LOVE Artwork Archive..." with ❤️ 01:37:35 Dahna Chandler: Replying to "LOVE Artwork Archive..." Me, too! 01:37:38 Mary: I just signed up for Artwork Archive 01:37:48 Alexis: Reacted to "Me, too!" with 👍 01:39:00 Daryl D. Johnson: I use Excel for my postcard mailing list (segmented for categories) I just send the Excel file to my printer to print addresses on cards for mailing. 01:39:38 Rebecca Finch: Can’t Artwork archive work for prospects? I put in contacts even if they haven’t bought art. Google Drive can work for the dateabase - free and you can access it on any device 01:43:13 Eve Jacobs-Carnahan (she/her): Less Annoying CRM lets you put in date of last contact and next follow up 01:43:25 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Less Annoying CRM le..." with 👍🏽 01:43:47 Dahna Chandler: Replying to "Less Annoying CRM le..." I was considering renewing my subscription to them. I like them a LOT. 01:44:23 Eve Jacobs-Carnahan (she/her): Reacted to "I was considering re..." with 👍 01:44:30 Dahna Chandler: Q: What do you mean when you say “art collectors are at the museum?” 01:46:16 Margaret Biggs: I have a database with most of facts you listed. Collectors and contacts I’ve met. Problem is, though I kept painting, my business fell away (along with monthly newsletter) for over 7 years due to caring for parents and 4 moves….How would you recommend I handle these Old contacts I have not nurtured in many years. 01:46:34 Elizabeth Kinahan: what’s a good way to introduce yourself to people you don’t yet know, like interior decorators? 01:46:47 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "what’s a good way to..." with 👍🏽 01:46:52 Irmgard: www.irmgardgeul.com @irmgardgeul IG 01:47:25 Linda Richichi: www.lindarichichi.com info@richichiart.com 01:47:26 Debbie Grifka MI: Where do I find a list of those categories again? 01:47:35 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "www.lindarichichi.co..." with ❤️ 01:47:51 Priscilla Stadler (she, they): https://www.instagram.com/priscillastudio www.priscillastadler.com 01:47:58 Linda Richichi: please put the workbook link again. 01:48:45 Dahna Chandler: PLEASE take advantage of this offer. It’s worth it! 01:49:06 Eve Jacobs-Carnahan (she/her): Q: you had board members as a category; can you explain role of board members on art centers and museums? How do they relate to curators and Exec. Directors? 01:49:33 Linda Richichi: cannot scroll up far enough and couldn’t find in learning center 01:50:03 Sara Conybeer: Our community is amazing! 01:50:24 Elsa: Does anyone know of an app to make a spreadsheet that is not excel or numbers? 01:50:25 Linda Richichi: ok 01:50:26 Rachael McCampbell: www.rachaelmccampbell.com 01:50:48 Jessica Falcone: Where do people keep their students or potential students? 01:51:16 Mary: Replying to "Does anyone know of ..." Airtable is an app to make databases which is really good. 01:51:28 Sandra Sedmak Engel Fine Art: I think this is the link: 01:51:33 Sandra Sedmak Engel Fine Art: @Rachael McCampbell It’s in the learning center with Your People Plan. It was in the emails we sent, too. Https://my.artbizsuccess.com/courses/peopleplan 01:52:03 Sarah Short: Replying to "Where do people keep..." I was thinking about this too, Jessica. Maybe organize it in Artwork Archive as a contact by label it as one class and put them all in there? 01:52:04 DougFreemanStudio: doug@freemanstudio.com www.freemanstudio.com 01:52:17 Daryl D. Johnson: Board members: the symphony, performing arts centers, people who love the arts! 01:52:33 Mary: Replying to "Where do people keep..." I am interested in this question too. 01:52:36 Leslie miller: lesliemillerfineart@icloud.com 01:52:42 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Where do people keep..." I keep mine in MailChimp - it's easier to focus on the group of specific students only and send them updates/futher info/ etc around what I'm teaching if I put them there. I also make sure I send them a digital business card after workshops. 01:52:43 Leslie miller: www.lesliemillerfineart.com 01:52:57 Mary: Reacted to "I keep mine in MailC..." with 👍 01:53:15 Sarah Short: Reacted to "I keep mine in MailC..." with 👍 01:53:17 Cynthia Reid: I have my email list in Mailchimp and a spreadsheet of VIPs. I know on Artist Archive you can have a collector list. Is that a duplication to have a collector list…do I need it? 01:53:23 Leslie miller: https://www.instagram.com/lesliemillerfineart/ 01:53:44 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Where do people keep..." Also, most students sign up for a workshop through MailChimp forms, so it's a lot easier with an automated form to keep the list up to date. 01:53:52 Linda Richichi: got it thanks 01:54:15 Jessica Falcone: Reacted to "I was thinking about..." with 👍 01:54:37 Jessica Falcone: Reacted to "I keep mine in MailC..." with 👍 01:54:39 Viktoria K: I want to create a list of people for my upcoming exhibition who live in another city. I gather contacts that I already know but also brand new contacts. Any ideas how I can do that effectively? Maybe through location search on social media? (If that’s too off-topic please ignore my question). 01:54:49 Jessica Falcone: Reacted to "Also, most students ..." with 👍 01:55:00 peggie: www.peggiecollinsdesign.com Peggie.collins instagram 01:55:50 Karen Middleton: Antique merry go round horses are kinda cool tho 01:56:19 Rachael McCampbell: IG. @mccampbellArt. Email: rachael@rachaelmccampbell.com 01:57:43 Elana: We had a question in our group - how to communicate with and “convert” social media followers without being salesy/ turning them off with tone. 02:00:05 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Where do people keep..." In MailChimp, you can build specific tags into the form that you use to collect the interested and signed up people as they take one action or the other. 02:00:05 Linda Jacobson: I have a google drive list of recent connections, with follow up, but don’t have all their information. AndI have a separate mac mail email list of ie collectors galleries, etc. names, addresses etc. but not what they bought and not all together. Thanks 02:00:49 Rachael McCampbell: I’ve had a hard time segmenting my lists on Constant Contact because like you said they are ALL potential students and buyers etc…but there are also curators and media folks on my email list so I always worry that they are reading email that have workshop info in it. 02:01:44 Elana: Replying to "I’ve had a hard time..." I’ve had this issue too. 02:02:16 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Rachael, that's why I like the tagging in MailChimp: if they send me a query message, they get tagged as a new contact AND as a potential buyer or student. Then when they sign up for a workshop, they get tagged as a student and the course id. 02:03:02 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: MailChimp does all the tagging, and I just have to export to an excel spreadsheet to sort and followup. 02:04:28 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: BTW, I'm using only the least expensive version of MailChimp, and I used the free one right up until last year. 02:05:33 Paula Blumenfeld: is it necessary to ask permission to send your letter to people before sending? 02:05:54 Linda Richichi: I use convert kit for email list. 02:05:58 Leslie miller: I am happy to share an Airtable base for Artist CRM 02:06:24 Leslie miller: Replying to "I am happy to share ..." Email if you’d like, lesliemillerfineart@icloud.com 02:06:28 Rachael McCampbell: Reacted to "I’ve had this issue ..." with 👍 02:06:37 Rachael McCampbell: Reacted to "Rachael, that's why ..." with 👍 02:07:32 Margaret Biggs: Thank you so much Alyson! See you tomorrow! 02:08:00 Patricia Ramaer: Ask the contacts you already know ? 02:08:27 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Find out what the name of the flying club is in that city, and send them a postcard about your exhibition. 02:08:30 Rachael McCampbell: Replying to "I am happy to share ..." rachael@rachaelmccampbell.com. Thanks Leslie! 02:08:48 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Find out what the na..." with 👍🏽 02:08:51 Patricia Ramaer: Reacted to "Find out what the na..." with ☝🏼 02:09:05 Rebecca Finch: Reacted to "Find out what the na..." with 👍🏽 02:09:13 Alexis: Reacted to "Find out what the na..." with ☝🏼 02:09:17 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: People who fly are like people who sail - they have clubs specific to their interest, usually located at the local airports. 02:09:32 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Or marinas, if it happens to be boat people. 02:09:51 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "People who fly are l..." with 👍🏽 02:09:54 Patricia Ramaer: Reacted to "People who fly are l..." with ☝🏼 02:09:57 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Or marinas, if it ha..." with 👍🏽 02:10:43 Dahna Chandler: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." And, people who are into flying usually are into sailing, too. They do one more than the other. But, they’re typically in both groups. 02:11:09 Viktoria K: Reacted to "And, people who are ..." with ❤️ 02:11:13 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." Good point, Dahna - I forgot about that, but it's very true! 02:11:35 Viktoria K: Reacted to "Or marinas, if it ha..." with ❤️ 02:11:43 Dahna Chandler: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." It’s a smallish group and they typically “hang” out with each other. 02:11:51 Viktoria K: Reacted to "People who fly are l..." with ❤️ 02:11:52 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." Yup! 02:13:26 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Yup!" with 👍🏽 02:14:31 Rachael McCampbell: I’ve had a hard time segmenting my lists on Constant Contact because like you said they are ALL potential students and buyers etc…but there are also curators and media folks on my email list so I always worry that they are reading email that have workshop info in it. How best to segment? 02:15:00 Alexis: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." I am just starting out. I will be focusing first on friends, family, and artist colleagues, but wondering if, after that, there are go-to groups you recommend focusing on for artists just getting started? 02:15:42 Mary: ?? Squarespace does the same thing as Mailchimp?? 02:15:46 Sally-Ann Davies: Get in touch Laura I use Squarespace for my mailing list. I love it 02:16:03 Dahna Chandler: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." I’d go on ChatGPT and ask it for groups like this in your area. Tell it to give you ONLY legitimate groups with live links to their sites. 02:16:18 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Rachael, Constant Contact should allow you to tag the same way that MailChimp does it. Maybe ask the Constant Contact tech support line for clarity around that? 02:16:30 Marcie Scudder: I moved from mail chimp to squarespace. Can’t segment things the same way on squarespace…but otherwise - very easy to use. 02:16:43 Priscilla Stadler (she, they): To clean up a “cool” not quite cold list (8 months or so) it ever a good idea to ask people if they want to stay on the list? 02:16:58 dudleyzopp: MailChimp was better for unlimited emails. I was disappointed with Squarespace’s paywalls for numbers of emails you could send. 02:17:01 Jessica Falcone: I’ve been using SS for my email list and love it so far 02:17:43 Karen Middleton: I've been able to network with a bunch of professionals outside of the art realm and collected their emails, but I made the mistake of not asking if I could add them to my email list. How would you suggest going about doing a "follow up" asking if they would be interested in being added to my newsletter (which is new and I'm only just launching)? 02:18:18 Sandra Sedmak Engel Fine Art: Do you see it as a problem that I send emails to the entire list rather than breaking it up? I only have it segmented by location at this point. 02:18:42 Patricia Ramaer: Reacted to "To clean up a “cool”..." with ❓ 02:19:05 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." 👍 02:19:46 dudleyzopp: Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." Hi Priscilla 🙂 02:21:00 Priscilla Stadler (she, they): Replying to "Or marinas, if it ha..." Hey, Dudley!!! 02:21:48 Laura Stack: Thank you, Alyson! 02:22:19 Dahna Chandler: This has been GREAT as usual! Thank you, Alyson! 02:23:30 Carolyn Spies - Oaxaca, Mexico: Looking forward to mañana! 02:23:35 Priscilla Stadler (she, they): Thanks, all! Feeling inspired to do some overdue list housekeeping! 02:23:43 Linda Richichi: Thank you! 02:23:44 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Thanks, all! Feeling..." with 👍🏽 02:23:48 Dahna Chandler: Reacted to "Thank you!" with ❤️ 02:23:59 Priscilla Stadler (she, they): Replying to "Thanks, all! Feeling..." See you tomorrow! 02:24:05 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Segmentation of your list is pretty critical - it's what gives you all the flexibility in managing all the different kinds of audience members you will attract in your life as an artist. If your list manager doesn't have tagging and segmentation, you probably need to switch to a different list platform. 02:26:10 Rachael McCampbell: Replying to "Segmentation of your..." I agree….I’m just mad at myself for not doing this to begin with. Now I have 1,700 folks on the email list with no info other than names….hard to segment the past ones. 02:26:50 Paula Blumenfeld: many thanks and good to meet everyone! paula 02:26:57 Leah Murray, Surrey, BC, Canada: Replying to "Segmentation of your..." LOL - that's why you want to export it all to a spreadsheet, tag it all, and then empty your online database and re-import your tagged list in. Tech is wonderfuil when it works! 02:27:00 peggie: thank you! 02:27:00 Rebecca Finch: THANK YOU!